Which Version to Install?
I had to re-configure my PC yet again.
It is a Windows 7 Pro, 64-bit brand new install.
I've used Doomsday before so I'm not totally unfamiliar with it.
The specs of my machine are attached. It's a decent system, but the display and graphics aren't.
Thoughts?
Thanks...
It is a Windows 7 Pro, 64-bit brand new install.
I've used Doomsday before so I'm not totally unfamiliar with it.
The specs of my machine are attached. It's a decent system, but the display and graphics aren't.
Thoughts?
Thanks...
Comments
It caused the Start button to disappear and I never did get the game to even open. It seemed to load ok, but running a game it gave a black screen. It had sound, but a totally black screen.
So, I'm a little reluctant to go through all of that with this version.
Other suggestions?
I found out the culprit of the missing Start button problem.
It was not doomsday as I suspected. It was another program that I must have opened at about the same time I was trying to install doomsday. It's a program I have been using for 15 years, or more. That was the problem.
Wanted to set the record straight for you, and anyone else that runs across this post.
I had this version on my previous Win 7 Ultimate and while problematic with Scythe I could play the other DOOM games ok.
This machine (Win 7 Pro....fresh install ~ 1 month or so) this version won't run.
Doomsday.out file attached.
I only loaded the original DOOM (1) game and there is either a black screen and sound, or there is just an outlined window only where the desktop shows, and the sound works.
I'm assuming the game will 'play' because I can close it easily enough since I have the keystrokes memorized: Esc, Q, enter, y.
I have tried a number of combinations of settings in the Graphics and Display options, but no luck.
Any suggestions?
Thanks
Have you tried disabling fsaa with the '-nofsaa' command line option as suggested here?:
http://www.dengine.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=2216
On the "-nofsaa" part, I have not tried it. Can this be added to Snowberry somehow?
Thanks -
Edit: I found this from skyjake when I had troubles before with another machine:
fizixx wrote:
How do you use the -nofsaa switch you suggested before? Where does it get placed?
If you're running Doomsday 1.15 or earlier, so you're using the Frontend, the "-nofsaa" option can placed in the Settings tab > Developer > Custom options field.
I did that, then tried to start the game...no luck.
I went back into the Doomsday folders and deleted the "persist.pack" from the runtime folder...no luck.
Lastly, here's doomsday.out again. I set the verbosity to level 2 (debug) this time, in case there's anything that shows up. I tried to add it with the "CODE" option, but the file was too large so I attached it.
What's frustrating is, I ran this game and this version with my previous Win 7 64 bit Ultimate machine, and it never did run Scythe, it ran the others just fine, but with this same machine but with win 7 pro I'm getting a black screen.
BUT having read through your old thread I can see it's the exact same card and driver version you had it running on before... So at this point I'm pretty much out of ideas.
One last thought: Did you try the '640x480 safe mode' that worked for you before?
Yeah, I'm beyond frustrated. Yeah, DOOM was working well before, although I hadn't gotten Scythe to work, but that's another matter. So it SHOULD work now, but it doesn't.
Just a few minutes ago I uninstalled "doomsday_1.10.4_64_bit.exe" completely (manually removed everything the uninstaller doesn't get --- ugh) and I installed "doomsday_1.10.0.exe".
Those files were when I had this problem x months ago, and one of these was the one that was working, and that was the one I had trouble with Scythe.
So after installing that other version I'm getting the same thing. Black screen, tried the "-nofsaa" switch, deleting the persist.pack or whatever it is and playing with the 'settings' in Snowberry.
Now, if by 640x480 mode you mean the setting in Snowberry, yes I tried that. I tried the Anisotropic setting and the other settings....and nothing. Black screen. Sound works. I can close the game just fine, but there is no video at all.
Here's one last shot at the doomsday.out:
Executable: Doomsday Engine 1.10.0 (Stable 32-bit #823) Apr 3 2013 12:33:54. Command line (15 strings): 0: ..\Bin\Doomsday.exe 1: -basedir 2: C:\Program Files (x86)\Doomsday/ 3: -sfxchan 4: 16 5: -fullscreen 6: -noanifilter 7: -texcomp 8: -game 9: doom2 10: -iwad 11: C:\Doom 1, 2, TNT, Final & Ultimate\DOOM2.WAD 12: -nofsaa 13: -userdir 14: C:\Users\Tom\Documents\Doomsday Frontend\runtime/ Window::initialize: Using Qt window management. Initializing plugins... Library_New: Error opening "/bin/audio_openal.dll": [LoadError] (Library::Library) Cannot load library C:\Program Files (x86)\ Doomsday\Bin\plugins\audio_openal.dll: The specified module could not be found. loadPlugin: Did not load "/bin/audio_openal.dll" ([LoadError] (Library::Library) Cannot load library C:\Program Files (x86)\Doomsday\Bin\plugins\audio_openal.dll: The specified module could not be found.). (id:1) dehread (id:2) doom (id:3) heretic (id:4) wadmapconverter Starting GuiApp event loop... Display mode has changed. Canvas: Gained focus. OpenGL information: Vendor: Intel Renderer: Intel 965/963 Graphics Media Accelerator Version: 2.0.0 - Build 8.14.10.1930 Available Compressed Texture Formats: 6 Available Texture Units: 8 Maximum Texture Anisotropy: 2 Maximum Texture Size: 2048 Line Width Granularity: 0.5 Line Width Range: 0.0...7.5 Extensions: GL_EXT_blend_minmax GL_EXT_blend_subtract GL_EXT_blend_color GL_EXT_abgr GL_EXT_texture3D GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap GL_EXT_draw_range_elements GL_SGIS_texture_lod GL_EXT_rescale_normal GL_EXT_packed_pixels GL_EXT_separate_specular_color GL_ARB_multitexture GL_EXT_texture_env_combine GL_EXT_bgra GL_EXT_blend_func_separate GL_EXT_secondary_color GL_EXT_fog_coord GL_EXT_texture_env_add GL_ARB_texture_cube_map GL_ARB_transpose_matrix GL_ARB_texture_env_add GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays GL_NV_blend_square GL_ARB_texture_compression GL_3DFX_texture_compression_FX GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotro GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp GL_ARB_point_parameters GL_ARB_texture_env_combine GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3 GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3t GL_ARB_shadow GL_ARB_window_pos GL_EXT_shadow_funcs GL_EXT_stencil_wrap GL_ARB_vertex_program GL_EXT_texture_rectangle GL_ARB_fragment_program GL_EXT_stencil_two_side GL_ATI_separate_stencil GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias GL_ARB_fragment_shader GL_ARB_shader_objects GL_ARB_shading_language_100 GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_tw GL_ARB_vertex_shader GL_NV_texgen_reflection GL_ARB_point_sprite GL_EXT_blend_equation_separate GL_ARB_depth_texture GL_ARB_texture_rectangle GL_ARB_draw_buffers GL_ARB_pixel_buffer_object GL_WIN_swap_hint GL_EXT_framebuffer_object Extensions (WGL): WGL_ARB_buffer_region WGL_ARB_extensions_string WGL_ARB_make_current_read WGL_ARB_pixel_format WGL_ARB_pbuffer WGL_EXT_extensions_string WGL_EXT_swap_control Initializing Render subsystem... Setting up platform state... FMOD Sound System (c) Firelight Technologies Pty, Ltd., 1994-2013. Audio configuration (by decreasing priority): CD : FMOD/CD Music: FMOD/Ext SFX : FMOD Sfx_InitChannels: 16 channels. Initializing Resource subsystem... Initializing Texture subsystem... Initializing Material subsystem... Initializing Binding subsystem... Initializing InFine subsystem... Initializing UI subsystem... Locating "HACX - Twitch 'n Kill"... Locating "Chex(R) Quest"... Locating "Final DOOM: TNT: Evilution"... Locating "Final DOOM: The Plutonia Experiment"... Locating "DOOM 2: Hell on Earth"... Locating "Ultimate DOOM"... Locating "DOOM Registered"... Locating "DOOM Shareware"... Locating "Heretic: Shadow of the Serpent Riders"... Locating "Heretic Registered"... Locating "Heretic Shareware"... Loading game resources... IWAD identification: 0107a3f9 loadCompositeTextureDefs: Loaded all texture definitions from "C:\Doom 1, 2, TNT, Final & Ultimate\DOOM2.WAD:(basedir)\TEXTURE1.lmp". R_InitCompositeTextures: Done in 1.2 seconds. R_InitFlatTetxures: Done in 0.025 seconds. R_InitSpriteTextures: Completed in 1.9 seconds. Parsing primary config "configs\doom\game.cfg"... Clearing binding context 'global'... Clearing binding context 'deui'... Clearing binding context 'console'... Clearing binding context 'message'... Clearing binding context 'chat'... Clearing binding context 'shortcut'... Clearing binding context 'gameui'... Clearing binding context 'menu'... Clearing binding context 'finale'... Clearing binding context 'map-freepan'... Clearing binding context 'map'... Clearing binding context 'game'... Parsing definition files... readAllDefinitions: Completed in 0.087 seconds. Definitions: 30 animation groups 6 composite fonts 11 finales 9 lights 33 map infos 11 materials 27 particle generators 3 skies 36 songs 110 sound effects 138 sprite names 974 states 51 surface decorations 368 text strings 11 texture environments 140 things buildSprites: Done in 0.054 seconds. R_InitSprites: Done in 0.055 seconds. Models_Init: Done in 0 seconds. Failed locating image resource for "Particle00". ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DOOM 2: Hell on Earth ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sfx_Cache: Caching sample 'swtchn' (#23)... ^ : Caching sample 'pistol' (#1)... ^ : Caching sample 'swtchx' (#24)... ^ : Caching sample 'vilact' (#80)... ^ > Wad::cacheLump: Created a new 32.0 MB memory volume. Stopping GuiApp event loop GuiApp event loop exited with code 0 Shutting down the console... Z_Shutdown: Used 2 volumes, total 67108864 bytes. Restoring original display mode due to shutdown. Canvas: Lost focus. Stopping GuiApp event loopI was going to create another new post, but I don't think it's going to help. if there aren't any other ideas I'm going to uninstall Doomsday and go with another source port.
I refuse to believe that a fresh install of Windows 7, (64) is unable to drive this game. I've installed it in Safe Mode. I've installed it with the AV off, I've followed all the bits and pieces I can find in the forums, I've changed settings in most, if not all the combinations and STILL a black screen?! wtf is that!?
I know the machine will run it, and if there's any other ideas to check I will, because I do like this source port, but I'm not going to go without playing the game.
I appreciate that you've gone through old posts trying to help, so thank you!
I assumed my post had just been abandoned because it was too difficult a problem for others to solve, which is why, if I don't get this going today, I really have no choice but to go to another port. DOOM is a great escape. I've been playing it since ~1995, and I've gone too long screwing around with this nonsense to just give up.....yanno?
I looked and found vid cards for cheaper than I thought. What do you all think about a card like this:
The current incarnation of their Driver Update Utility (http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ ... etect.html) works pretty well for me.
(I've got a C2D/Intel 965 I can try to test on - but windows10/LinuxMint)
I'd expect most any AMD/NVIDIA card made in the last, what, 8 years should work? $30-$50 USD, update the drivers and done.